Raw meat and fat only...

Question
A man on the "active no-Carber Forum" with username "Bear" has impressed me and other to "eat from the animal kingdom only". I find meat and fat (zero milkpro.) best and can't agree with many things A.V. has in his diet (fruit, vegis, honey, milk is all carb and plant).

"Bear" is against to much organ meat because of the high carb; but will eat a lot of red meat, chicken (not 100% raw).

What is about A.V.: eat red, weight and fish. I thought it would be better to eat a little chicken (you eat eggs and they come from a chicken that has is not gras fed.

I am trying the water thing that A.V. mentions: I thought because of the meat to drink a lot of water (Bear: 2-4 Liters of rainwater). I can only drink tap water. If you don't drink much how are you going to produce urin?

I am glad to have found you because I do not agree with the pant and milk things that A.W. mentions. Plant oils are not healthy at all expt. saturated fats.  

Answer
I would suggest being  very wary of accepting The Bear's statements at face-value. A member of my rawpaleodiet group pointed out(in post 1035, April 21st, in the group's message-archives)  that The Bear mentioned (on this low-carb forum):-

http://tinyurl.com/2m8v5e
) that he'd had radiation treatment for throat-cancer - this rather late remark occurred  quite some time  after praising his all-meat diet, in numerous posts beforehand. The Bear also mentioned that he consumed dairy products and his diet wasn't exactly raw(though I seem to recall that it was mostly lightly-cooked), so that's not a good sign, either. Also, like some lowcarbers, he's stated frequently that he's in favour of grain-fed meats(presumably because they have proportionately more saturated fat on them) - yet, most raw-animal-foodists, along with Weston-Price- and Palaeolithic Diet gurus and followers, have pointed out the much higher levels of nutrients and healthy  (Omega-3) fats found in grass-fed meats, and how grain-fed feedlot  cattle suffer from all sorts of health-problems(eg:-

http://www.eatwild.com/articles/youare.html

http://www.eatwild.com/healthbenefits.htm


(On a personal note, I've done a couple of (admittedly short-term) experiments on an all-animal-food diet and they weren't exactly  successful. I find a very-low carb diet is a better approach, in the long run. I also, unlike The Bear,  find that a wide variety  of (grassfed) organ-meats is necessary for health, along with the usual (grassfed)muscle-meats. Organ-meats have much higher levels of nutrients than muscle-meats, and are sought out by hunter-gatherers:-

"Organ meats favored in preference to muscle meats in hunter-gatherer diets. Observations of modern hunter-gatherers have shown that muscle meats (the leanest part of the animal) are least preferred, sometimes even being thrown away in times of plenty, in preference to the fattier portions. Eaten first are the organs such as brains, eyeballs, tongue, kidneys, bone marrow (high in monounsaturated fat), and storage fat areas such as mesenteric (gut) fat. (Even this gut fat is much less saturated in composition, however, than the kind of marbled fat found in the muscle meat of modern feedlot  animals.) There is no reason to believe earlier hunter-gatherers would have been any different in these preferences, since other species of animals who eat other animals for food also follow the same general order of consumption." taken from www.beyondveg.com website


That doesn't necessarily mean that i'm 100% right re this issue of all-carnivorous  diets, so feel free to experiment on your own with an all-meat diet, but I would suggest being a little cautious, given these concerns).

All that said, I absolutely agree  re AV being dead wrong re recommending excess amounts of raw carbs, in the form of raw dairy or raw veggie-juice, raw coconut oil/cream, raw olive-oil  etc.. A number of (RAF)ers have claimed that raw butter is better than other kinds of raw dairy, due to it being carb-free, but, unfortunately, it's not just a question of the carb-content in raw dairy, but also the excess calcium that's the problem, among a number of other factors.

Re water:- I wouldn't recommend Aajonus' suggestion to drink less  water. You should drink water when you're thirsty - no more, no less.

Admittedly, mineral-water from natural springs is  better for your health than tap-water(that is, if you live in a city where tapwater is endlessly recycled from sewage - in some countryside areas such as in the Austrian Alps, I've had tapwater coming direct from far-up mountain-streams, so that one is effectively drinking high-quality mineral-water from the tap!).

Aajonus does have a point in that raw food has a higher water-content than  cooked-food diets, so you may find you need less water, each day, than you would on a cooked-food diet - but you should still rely on your instincts/sense of thirst to guide you as to how much you should actually drink each day.



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